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Chance is pretty slim that you will get unresticted in Erie County. I feel my firearm safety training has prepared me for continued safe use of my firearm. My question isnt about Erie Co. but i do have a related question about the NYS carry permit process. I am currently filling out my paper work for my pistol permit in NY. New Pistol Permit Application Process Applicant Requirements You must be at least 21 years of age and a resident of Erie County. My question is Is there anything I can write in order to increase my chances of getting an unrestricted carry permit on my first go around rather than waiting three years of having a clean pistol permit? NY city and surrounding counties for the most part. I understand there are areas where carrying a firearm would be prohibited by state and/or federal law; which I intend to always abide by. For example, you can be approved for your permit, take this class and get restrictions removed right away without waiting a year or 5 years like you may have been told. As for the 1.5 years for permit, they are getting a bit quicker, many of my customers are just under a year. Onondaga County could go either way, but I think they are starting to lean towards unrestricted. You must fill out the County PPA-4R (Rev 9/22) application You must fill out the State PPB-3 (Rev 8/22) application. They do not take pictures or fingerprint at the pistol permit office. Pistol Permits | Erie County Clerk Michael P. Kearns Pistol Permits Locations & Hours Buffalo Office: 92 Franklin Street, Buffalo, NY 14202 Monday - Friday 9:00am - 5:00pm Elma Town Hall : Wednesdays 9:00am -1:00pm and 2:00pm -5:00pm ( Plastic Permit Holders Only, Payment with Credit Card Only & Closed 1pm-2pm ) New Applicants New tot this forum. 9. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. When living upstate would I have to write a letter to a judge asking for unrestricted? Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I know this topic has come up many times and people have asked about timelines. I know this topic has come up many times and people have asked about timelines. New York Gun Permit Requirements. Does anybody know counties that issue Unrestricted permits in NY? lost pistol permit pistol permit stolen. Otsego County is unrestricted. My name is [first/last name]. All do but the distance the State shoves its fist up our ass will vary. X?p@"v. You'll get a more direct and helpful response by asking exactly what county you reside in and will apply. Greetings from a newly UNRESTRICTED Erie county permit holder. endobj
and our A forum community dedicated to all New York firearm owners and enthusiasts. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. JavaScript is disabled. Has that been discontinued? . I say go with what you have. A friend of mine used basically this same reason and got unrestricted off the bat. I have thoroughly read and understand Article 35 of the NYS Penal Law. He may simply see you as high risk, as someone potentially "more inclined than the average Joe" for taking the Law into your own hands and getting yourself into trouble. +pr'8/yXOu+RJe"x0'&G*QG3B?!}q&/"&:
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Good luck. (once referred to as a pistol permit class or handgun safety class). Do they mean relatives by blood, or relatives by any connection whatsoever (great uncle-in-law for example)? There some places you should not put your junk into and this is one of them!! See the left hand side. Sucks, but getting better. I think it means immediate but if its that far off I don't see them going that far to check. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I know some people who got unrestricted first time though. #Wac6/$~TYgP/? You will be given a duplicate information form to be filled out at our office when you come in. I know somebody who has one, and I've seen it firsthand. Pretty much I applied unrestricted because my employment situation shows some "special need" a lot of my job duties include having large amounts of cash on me, I have security system and safe codes, am . Firearm safety was instilled in me from an early age. Possible yes. If you applied for an unrestricted pistol permit and you only received Target/Hunting or Business and the Judge advised you that you need to take additional training from a qualified instructor to remove restrictions, then our Advanced Handgun Firearm Safety Course (concealed carry class) is the training the Judge is referring to. Erie County Clerk Michael P. Kearns Pistol Permits, Buffalo Office:92 Franklin Street, Buffalo, NY 14202 Monday - Friday 9:00am - 5:00pm, Elma Town Hall:Wednesdays 9:00am -1:00pm and 2:00pm -5:00pm (Plastic Permit Holders Only, Payment with Credit Card Only & Closed 1pm-2pm). <>/XObject<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB/ImageC/ImageI] >>/MediaBox[ 0 0 612 792] /Contents 4 0 R/Group<>/Tabs/S/StructParents 0>>
The restrictions are pretty vague. Im an upstanding citizen in the community with high moral and ethical character, as well as a dedicated family man to my wife and XX children. Anything else I'm missing? The address doesnt list what floor the pistol permit office is on, anyone know which one it is please? The Licensing Officer recommends that you take a conceal carry class from a certified instructor in addition to the mandatory safety course. Starting September 1st 2022, NY State has implemented the new CCIA law. What I believe they are concerned with is are you a responsible citizen? Nearly everyone I know that put their paperwork in around the same time received unrestricted. I submitted my application in the middle of July for unrestricted/ target hunting. However, the County Clerk's Office would be happy to assist: You may go to the NYS Police website athttps://firearms.troopers.ny.gov/pprecert and complete the online recertification or you may print the form and mail it to the NYS Police. [C:@@^ -,3tvS"yP_>QiXF#Fy4X: -mWYt5K9;tW/Dj5[&20 G$^VSUGQ@aP#x 8`AN-Aad9p"lM This is what I was told. Every New York permit is a concealed carry permit. Hey guys, quick question. Laws and Politics - Firearms/Self Defense/Weapons. You are not required to buy or own a gun at the time of application. endobj
I have prior knowledge that this reason has worked in the past. I'll use the Buffalo address and pray that the BPD doesn't take their sweet ol time processing the interview/references. Well, my lazy ass has gotten the application finished up and ready to go, heading out to get the app notarized and then heading downtown to drop it off tomorrow. Cookie Notice ITC,7RY,}mIC$
:Kgca.`H$43IjDb -LG>7 e It kinds still looks blue. Firearms Instructors are required to self-certify in Erie County that they are a Duly Authorized Instructor pursuant to New York State Penal Law section 265.00(19) and that the course curriculum for the NYS Concealed Carry Firearm Safety Training they offer meets the requirements of New York State Penal Law section 400.00(19). 7W%LY)&kb8v TA20"n>X,+>=o]^\(+pAh(Xq,TnhB7xiEoe QU(T,L GZ)lf^H$TK Total turn around time of 14 weeks exactly. You must be a legal citizen of the United States of America. Please find my most recent certificate attached. Thought this might be helpful since Ive seen a lot of users recently asking about what to put in their just cause letter when applying for their pistol permit. Thanks for your help and advice in advance. stream
I got unrestricted. Is this going to be an issue? I also would not mind being able to carry when I travel into the inner city in which I work. They also denied me from getting a bolt action AR pistol on my permit so yeah thats why I asked. Fled the People's Republic of New York Laws and Politics - Firearms/Self Defense/Weapons. "2IfPHA#31x_M5y`8&(c[',5NQ`8i/x1FDh&0!fy|s=9 La N(wOBO.0h"*n6!sPY In order to apply for a pistol permit in Erie County, you must be 21 years of age and be a resident of Erie County. Even Albany county, which is probably one of the most anti gun counties in upstate, has been known to issue unrestricted. They take the pics and do the fingerprinting down there, correct? You must log in or register to reply here. Agree with the training recommendation. office today in regaurds to my refeance status for a friend of mine they needed my correct spelling they couldnt rean my last name . As an upstanding citizen in the community with high moral and ethical character, I feel I am good candidate for an unrestricted pistol license. Ok. 4 0 obj
I submitted my paperwork on 7/13. All you can really do is submit it and see what happens. JavaScript is disabled. I just took a look at their website for the location of the office, but they also mention they do pics too for $10. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I would suggest though if you haven't had any formal training that you get some because its good to have. Looks good to me. | My firearms are always locked in a safe, with trigger or action locks, separate from my ammunition. The reason clearly states that it is for carry while off duty. Quick steps to complete and eSign Pistol permit application erie county online: Use Get Form or simply click on the template preview to open it in the editor. I got my letter today. For more information, please see our Suffolk are not doing the permit process at the moment. [Strike out category which does not apply.] Update for my erie county pistol permit applicant friends i was called by the p.p. And if so would my military background and firearm courses qualify for unrestricted? <>
This is the new 16 hour class, (Also called the 16+2 class or 18 hour class), that NY State now requires all NY State residents take to apply for a NY State Concealed Carry license. EMAIL: info@onlinegunsafetycourse.com If you want to cancel and ask for a refund (it must be done more than 48 hours . Any help would be appreciated! Albany County. How did you receive an unrestricted pistol carry permit in Erie County? #*CU(ZRz@mTfx(3n2-e17lg*e\C D(J I say that because then he may say that you should apply for unrestricted once you complete it. Good luck. Having said that, if you can use someone else you probably should. I submitted the application anyway and received my license, many months later, with no problems. Pistol Permits | Erie County Clerk Michael P. Kearns Pistol Permits Pistol Permits Locations & Hours Buffalo Office: 92 Franklin Street, Buffalo, NY 14202 Monday - Friday 9:00 am - 5:00 pm Elma Town Hall : Wednesdays 9:00 am - 5:00 pm ( Plastic Permit Holders Only, Payment with Credit Card Only & Closed 1-2 for lunch ) New Applicants Privacy Policy. You must be of good moral character. Possible yes. My pistol permit has the following restrictions: Security, Target and Hunting, Business Protection, Home Protection. I just moved here, so all of my friends live outside of cheektowaga. Finally got my last reference this past week-- now time to submit! kRH5a,aJy"&;O1z(AgGI N0F:P uS8bqv}VH8g
&QE? Through my job in XX, I am often carrying large sums of money in various parts of the city; many times, after normal business hours. Click HERE for a list of counties accepting our ONLINE Pistol Safety Courses. The conceal carry class is deemed an advanced course and requires that participants have obtained a pistol permit prior to enrolling. Erie County Pistol Permit Timeline. To me, that sounds reasonable, and Boller is supposed to be a reasonable guy (he's a shooter and a supporter of 2A - his reasons for issuing restricted to start in most cases are more that it's his name on the permit as well as yours than any kind of "gun control"). Jim was a big help in getting the unrestricted first time out. People have used in-laws before or cousins and it has worked, but we would advise against it. This would be convenient for me, however I know a judge will not care about what's convenient for a citizen. F:@0_5%n?h2qblp8 LYN![!|D.D"LmK'?~gg|?6J T0{M; =>])mC3X?oseEqKTgCzpE'#"w`x,S:k8_ ])&N;>-Y5UN"yQNApk7>#S v_}S[HC] 4tNiDbje=oAaqdn/Ig1)p'#E'P}TiF>w+)Yr=jm-LW1z they will explain the fingerprinting process to you at the permit office. Most upstate counties either issue unrestricted off the bat or have provisions to remove restrictions after a year or so. I submitted my paperwork on 7/13. <>
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The problem with that migh be if he asks what you company's policy is about carrying and if it is pro 2a or anti. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. That's what I did and had no issues. > x5\g Upon receipt of my Pistol Permit, I plan to take additional firearm instruction and live-fire courses. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. ;{df
$>kZfrxxHPAc2&:! The cost of this course is $50.00. We will sign you up for a duplicate when you appear at the Pistol Permit Department with a list of your guns which includes the make, caliber and serial number of each gun. Accessibility, (new applicants will automatically be enrolled), Registering\Deleting\Changes\Transfers\Deaths\Lost or Stolen Permits, Instructions to self-certify as a Duly Authorized Instructor in Erie County, https://firearms.troopers.ny.gov/pprecert, Pistol Permit Reissue (Plastic cards: Lost/Stolen, Poor Condition). Its important to understand the process, removing restrictions is up to the licensing officer, the Judge. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Wyoming, Niagara. ERIE COUNTY UPGRADE CLASS/ ERIE COUNTY UNRESTRICTED PISTOL PERMIT. I am licensed pistol permit holder since , License Number . Judges often don't give unrestricted anymore because they don't want people to think they're Rambo or something of that nature. I've read many threads on this site, and it's still unsure where Erie County's huge delay is really stemming from. I am writing this letter to request an unrestricted New York State, Erie County, Pistol License. He will upgrade a permit after a few years or if you take a class, but you need a good reason to get one from the start. Its against company policy to carry on duty. I received my unrestricted permit in Erie County in December 2020. Any individual who seeks to obtain a concealed carry license for a pistol or revolver will be required to take the 16-hour classroom and 2-hour live-fire firearm safety training course. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It was quite obvious that the original blue writing was overwritten with black ink. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Process is very, very easy. Since every NY permit is concealed, that means you can conceal it on your person at all times. I'm about to turn in my pistol permit application and from what I can tell, the current judge is more than willing to give an unrestricted permit if you can show that you have experience with firearms and have a legit reason to carry concealed. I had the exact same thing happen with one of my references. Oct 22, 2013. NYS CONCEALED CARRY LICENSE CLASS: * If you cannot attend the class you sign up for, no problem, we can switch you to any other date or time. endobj
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Disabled American Veteran, I Bled for my Country Well, I never got to submit my permit because I couldnt find 4 references in my town. Though seldom, Suffolk does issue unrestricted. 2 0 obj
I am from West Seneca. It took me so long to get all my references together that one moved before I handed in the app. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! x]ko a~w,q\b)-_ZGrey}{$E3b[M +yxxn$Wb~{3?"~}4l:~xGXzgYf
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G=8~/o2IudJ ~gsyz=3ETvL4 gsp,\+HT}}xEW#m59@Ls.-A:Z^${o)cZ3/}';&{|9{\ Erie County Clerk's Office PISTOL PERMIT DEPARTMENT 92 FRANKLIN STREET BUFFALO, NEW YORK 14202 (716) 858-8785 Option #3 C OUNTY OF E RIE MICHAEL P. KEARNS Erie County Clerk UPGRADE AFFIDAVIT - PPU REQUEST FOR PERSONAL and/or BUSINESS PROTECTION ON PISTOL PERMIT Employer D STATE OF NEW YORK SUPREME COURT: County of Erie Full Name To make the deal even sweeter I told him that Im changing jobs in the marines that Ill become Military Police and that if I did 10 years ill be protected under LEOSA to carry and SAFE-ACT and Suffolk themselves said.. no NY doesnt recognize that. Do I Qualify As A Retired Law Enforcement Officer?. You are using an out of date browser. I understand an unrestricted pistol permit is a privilege and there is an increased responsibility with carrying a concealed firearm. I applied and it was upgraded in 2 months. Please return the completed form to:New York State PolicePistol Permit BureauBuilding 221220 Washington AvenueAlbany, New York 12226-2252, *Please Do Not Send Cash in the Mail (Check or Money Order only), Erie County Clerk's Office 92 Franklin StreetBuffalo, New York 14202, ERIE.GOV Creation date: 6/21/2022 4:24 PM . Hoping to get some information from this sub. We were told it would take about four months to get the decision. Form Needed. MowKh1l-f+T%V)RfCr 0%hWHlmf+X5HuddJ+x;6]oV,N[mM
AH2tO[C-gq4366L$,[&t }1odctHlx$sCniY 1|#\'MF$x0 0Xv We continue to hunt and target shoot on a regular basis. Vouchers do not expire and can be transferred to anyone. address change co-registration firearm private sale handgun registration name change opt-out form paper to plastic pistol permit pistol permit application pistol permit close-out recertificattion safe act . During normal times though I think it's possible to get an unrestricted permit from any upstate county. FYI I'm over 8 months and my references havent been contacted yet. | JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I told the judge about property in a drug infested area, my military experience (I had a weapons specialty), and over a decade with a target permit. Just a general "self defense" or "personal protection" isn't good enough with the sitting judge. address change name change pistol permit. We have had 100% success in getting Erie county restrictions removed by students taking this class, for more then 10 years of teaching You do not have to wait any time period to request restrictions be removed. I am a Paramedic for xcompanyx and frequently transport unstable psychiatric patients (often involuntarily- NYS 9.41/9.45) who may be angry with the outcome of their treatment. I have taken the Firearms Safety course twice, both times taught by a New York State and NRA licensed instructor. @KCU7bDC-y&dh'z
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Xl/:|{ExeZpd-ZE&Ml$LRY zf72CHgIT:4QAsGYt~A|4:l,5Kd7~125c k")Ns//TG2={m^Ke%4;Al&tqq8Z#$zj3? You will use your current address for the application. See the left hand side. I do not know about that county but I do know friends who were retired or ex police officers who moved to NYS both had no problems getting unrestricted permits. Letter received - March 18, 2021 -- Day 92 From delivery Unrestricted - Thanks to FTWNY.com, The best Pistol Permit class! Have had ours for about 10 yrs. 1. Sucks, but getting better. Erie County, NY- Erie County Clerk Michael P. Kearns announced the re-opening of the Erie County Pistol Department inside Elma Town Hall located at 1600 Bowen Road beginning March 16th. If you are looking for more info about Concealed Carry, gun choices, holster choices, laws and etc. If you are looking to get restrictions removed from your Erie County Hunting/Target or Business restricted NY Pistol Permit: Our Advanced Handgun Firearm Safety Course (concealed carry class) is the answer. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Instructions to self-certify as a Duly Authorized Instructor in Erie County. As of October 2020 town of Tonawanda is all 4 anywhere in Erie county. endobj
My wife and I applied for unrestricted NYS pistol permits back in august of 09. JavaScript is disabled. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Erie County Clerk Helpdesk :help desk software by Jitbit. Why being so vague? An issue I have. Hey all, had a quick pistol permit question for Erie county. You may send a written notification or come to our office in person with your permit to effect the change. Unless there is something in your background that wouldn't necessarily stop you from getting a permit but something that makes them nervous. Erie county has actually been pretty good about unrestricted off the bat the last few years from what I saw. 2. 0\%c~+QAufpl eYbB%A 1;dpXYs_AjG%M%(_p_gF*R0lulMVaxBYp>nZ$Kv$f,wg!'0)biWOHFq`2_.A=N=Js5#C`x|!Y%Kx>%{CwNbx:%- xLJa\,zJ)dcVCeB&b\Na8[kE2`Z[|w) jpl_Co>"Lz fXw1f8)CSky4v%q_M+ Thanks for the info. Such as the Intro to Concealed Carry Class, Home Defense Course and the M.D.T.S Live Fire Class offered by [company]. The satellite office will be open Wednesdays from 9:00AM- 1:00PM and 2:00PM- 5:00PM. 3. Situation: I have retired as a Military Police Officer after 20 years, and have obtained my Hr 218/LEOSA Identification Card/Credential from the Department of The Army which identifies me as a Retired "Qualified DoD Law Enforcement Officer". In the application it asks for a reason why I would require an unrestricted/concealed carry permit. Otherwise your question is trollish Im thinking about moving upstate Im not sure which county yet but I can say Im leaning more into Orange County. Site Map Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Erie County requires a "specific need" to be issued an unrestricted permit right off the bat. The office is to the left after you get through security. Can't you just roll with the standard blanket? I guess lawful defense of one's own life isn't a valid reason in Erie Countythe OP saves lives for a living, but when it comes to saving his own, the County takes issue with that. I ran into one of your coworkers at the permit office if this is who I think it is. <>
. The clerk told me to use white out on the applications, correct the address and turn it in. Hey all, just wanted to give an update on the wait times for Erie County's Pistol Permit wait time: Delivered - December 16, 2020 . You must log in or register to reply here. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform.