$150 if you take the simple route leaving the Henry forend on, (This for the extra handling and care packaging to protect the wood finish.). Lever action rifles are fun. My one friend was shooting 158jsp out of his as they shot very well. I have a H&R single shot .357 maximum. Best place to find squirrels in in a deer stand with a 30-06. The AR-15s in .223 are just glorified rabbit guns in my opinion. Admittingly I was single then but it was relaxing! by bgmkithaca Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:55 am, Post Rossi makes various models starting at about $500. There's no doubt but that the .357 Magnum with heavy bullets will do it handily up close.The .357 Maximum was an effort to give you .357 Magnum muzzle velocity at 200 meters. How do the modern .357 loads compare to the first repeaters? It is also more effective when used with a long gun, where it is legal to hunt with rifles. It's another special purpose cartridge that has an eerie resemblance to the Max. If you want a short-action levergun with similar ballistics, consider: for a velocity of around 1836 fps. $800 was a great price.. Maybe Ill be in a position to reload once I retire in 25 or so years but by then Ill probably have sold everything and moved back overseas so it wont be an issue. . The .357 Magnum is considerably more powerful than its parent round the .38 Special. As to market, a very subjective matter. I Wont be waiting on you to be relevantjust sayin. Nostalgia isnt relevance. Lube is easily made from beeswax and chassis grease. Well I did some research and got the ballistics for commercial .357 Magnum ammunition fired from a rifle. Own Stock. Finally needed cash and sold it to a collector of old west guns. But alas. So there are several options available that are much less expensive than the fine examples listed in the article. In short order, there was a Ruger Blackhawk Maximum and ammo to go with it.Ruger was not the only party on the Maximum bandwagon. .357 Magnum Rifle (Hodgdon Data) reloading data with 102 loads. Kept that gun quite a few years, took it out to shoot every now and then. This fire also flowed upwards in such a way that it encountered the inside edge of the revolver topstrap. Gun Genius. In Stock. The more the merrier. by groschen1936 Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:49 pm, Post Im sure even more now. I wish I had known Hornady was going to discontinue them, I would have stocked up on them. Most reloading die manufacturers can supply this accessory for your current dies set. Please enjoy those guns with your family on my behalf, as I will not be purchasing **anything** in CA in my continuing quest to remain off the CADOJs books. The .357 Magnum is probably the most widely-used revolver cartridge today, managing to thrive in an era where the wheelguns and associated cartridges are growing scarce. HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. #17. Before the Remington, Freedom group takeover. There was enough space there for a scabbard with a .30-30 in it. Velocities can exceed 2,000 fps in a 14-inch barrel, and that could make a hollowpoint bullet intended for .357 Magnum velocities behave like a varmint bullet. Comes with original Colt wood and rubber grips Sig Sauer P2340 .357 caliber with a 4in. A couple of people got that familiar look in their eyes and started plotting their next purchase right there. Most of my hearing is already gone, might has well get a couple of high-pressure guns to finish it off, Most of my hearing is already gone, might has well get a couple of high-pressure guns to finish it off. This permits me to throat the MAGnum barrel with a proper minimum diameter cylindrical throat that: Given a long minimum diameter throat, a MAGnum gives better accuracy with standard MAG ammo for those wanting to shoot .357 MAGnum and .38 Special loads while also being able to essentially duplicating .350 Legend factory loadings. Which was ".357 maximum Auto Rimless." The moniker ".357 Max AR" stuck with the round for 3 reasons, 1) it was a 5.56 case expanded to straightwall, maximizing its capacity, 2) it uses load data very similar to the 357 Maximum rimmed revolver cartridge, and 3) the "Max-AR," Auto Rimless, was really only meant for use in AR-15's . Before there were scopes or red dots there were iron sights. Have you tried hand-loading and experimenting with overall length? My lever is a Winchester in .45 Colt, for which you can not only reload, but you can reload pretty close to double the pressure of a handgun round, as long as you are using a modern rifle, and depending on the weight of the round. Over time, Sellier & Bellot expanded its product line to include rifle cartridges and smokeless powder. I made a Magneto V3 adapter on the cheap, Dirt cheap UPS has officially stopped shipping guns. (Ret.) bullets in barrels around 20. The trigger is even really nice for a lever gun and I own a bunch of them. Using bullets from Hornady XTP, Nosler JFP, LSWC, Sierra JHC, Nosler Part. So for me, the perfect single-caliber combo would be .357 Mag wheelgun at the hip holster, and lever gun such as one of those shown in the article above. Perfect. Nice single shot rifle. What I found odd or maybe not is that after all the semi automatic handguns, rifles and pump action shotguns were gone no one was buying lever actions. Of course, I dont carry it on a single point like the muh AR crowd does. So naturally, I'm looking at different options and trying to figure out what has the longest range. Of commonly available rifles, 444 marlin seems to be near the top of the heap, ballistics wise. The .357 sounds like just the ticket for deer hunting in heavy brush where 70-80 yard shots are about the max you will find. 357/38 is the one of the easiest. Also have a Winchester 1886 in 45-90, I shoot 45-70 loads in it and had no issues. Please try a new zip code and search again. This is the same bullet we've used with great sucess in the .35 Rem loads. OM56, cant disagree. Slip Top 50 Red Ammo Box 38 /357 Mag /357 Max /38 ACP /38 Super. I have become a fan. Oh. A heavily worn gun that had been drilled vertically thru the buttstock, the barrel, magazine tube and lag-bolted across beams in the ceiling of some bar in northern Arizona. Thats what makes them lever action great. A .357 bang stick would certainly be cheaper to keep fed for silhouette shooting vs my Henry in 45 Colt. I sight in for 75 yards which lets me go out 125 yards with pretty much a dead on hold. Winchester Firearms 1873 Deluxe Sporting 357 Mag / 38 Spl Lever-Action Rifle with Color Case Hardene. If its an American classic you want, the Winchester Model 1892 Carbine is about as classic as it gets. That feature was what was holding me back from buying one. You can find ammo, and buy it if you can afford it. plus i have very bad eyes, and kinda need a scope or a red dot to shoot in a relaxed fashion. 20170926..35Cal.190gr.Fury.Jug.Test - Copy1.jpg, https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2t-barrel-length-muzzle-velocity-and-accuracy/, https://www.speer-ammo.com/products/bullets/rifle-bullets/hot-cor-rifle-bullet/2435, https://matchgrademachine.com/encore-contender-357-magnum-maximum-load-development-results/, http://hawkbullets.com/bullet-selection.html, https://cuttingedgebullets.com/shop/ets?caliber=43, http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/WPHandloading-Guide-7.0-Web-REV.pdf. BTW, next to .357 Mag in the combo, my next favorite choice would be the set in .44 Mag. The regular Marlin 1894C is priced at around $700. Ruger Blackhawk .357 Maximum. The Mossberg 500 Pump Action Shotgun is one of the most popular home defense shotguns on the market. Why wouldnt you want a .357 Magnum lever action rifle? For complete guns, call Kurt Bellm at 970 433 9525. Great for when wearing gloves. My lever lust may remain unquenched. NEF 357 Mag camo syn stocks with camo Nikon . This caliber in both the bottle neck and straight wall was a popular "high velocity" for it's day buffalo caliber. The action and trigger needed work, so that cost another $125 from my local Gunsmith in Oregon. Less than 100 days away now. My factory Maxi is a 1982 also. bullets and 1800 (+) fps from 10" barrels at the short end of barrel lengths. MGM's .357 Maximum chamber has an excellent .358" diameter cylindrical throat, stepped down to .357" far, far superior to factory forcing cone chambers, and very similar to my throating. It has a lot going for it: you can drive a 125 grain JHP .38 to .357 handgun velocities, its 16 barrel is just as handy as an AR, you can reload on the fly like a shotgun, its legal in all 50 states, not frightening to non-POTG, and is simple to operate. Available in different sizes and red dot ready, it'll fit your needs, whatever they are. The .357 Maximum can be a potentially great cast bullet cartridge. The Hodgdon site gives loads for bullets from 110 gr. Id buy another Henry in a heartbeat, if my gun safe werent replete with levers already. The most common include: Ruger Blackhawk Dan Wesson Model 40 allows seating bullets out to create the same case capacity as the published "revolver spec" .357 Maximum loads that have all the bullet shank stuffed into the case, duplicate .350 Legend powder charge weights that should give the same or better ballistics as factory .350 Legend ammo, and. I would love to have a new Henry Big Boy X in 357 Magnum.. It is a smaller diameter bullet with a high velocity, which makes it penetrate well during hunting. Im a wee bit envious. These comments are directed at the people say there is no ammo to buy, or its too expensive. That and you cant find 357 magnum ammunition anywhere. We call all major brands, calibers, and gauges of ammunition for your firearms. Same 357 MAXIMUM 180 gr load in an 18" rifle barrel has a MP= 3111 psi vel 1663 FPS 357 Mag 158 gr 13 gr Win 296 1719 FPS 14" barrel MP= 2586 Should be Ev0-9 safe especially with a Triad Mount. bullets have proven to be the best of the revolver type bullets for all applications.. handgun and rifle. The only guy I knew who shot 357 Max had a Ruger SBH and a Marlin lever gun re-chambered for the Max cartridge. Getting old aint easy. WOW! Put the .357 Maximum in a rifle or a single-shot pistol, and you see a new picture of this cartridge. Suppessor equiped lever guns with Subsonic plinker ammo are a hoot to shoot. I got a 336BL a couple years ago and I have no complaints. . At least it can use use the same bullets as my Smiths. I bought a used Marlin 94c 357 in June, 2020 for $600, in 98% condition. Check the charts out at the bottom of the page. The conversion was not troublesome at all other than a rebarrel and chamber job , it feeds with no modifications whatever needed. Because of this, many hunters are realizing the potential of the cartridge for hunting medium to large game. Im glad I was able to get what I needed for the time being. Show Only Non-Guns. Best to have at least one, in your favorite caliber, in the collection. Thats exactly the sort of info i was looking for. Now its the way it should have been from the factory. Your buddys Italian .357 was probably a Chiappa. It's failure as a commercial load does not reflect poorly on it's performance, as it has become increasingly popular for handgun hunters and silhouette shooters alike. Pricey, but they take down to a package about 20 inches long without sacrificing accuracy and are very well made. Build a Ruger#1. I wish I had bought more..or kept more ..lol. Cold hammer-forged barrel results in ultra-precise rifling that provides exceptional accuracy and longevity. (I bought a Glenfield 30A at a gunshow for $200 about 5 years ago. With higher-performance loads, the .357 carbine almost delivers real rifle ballistics. Remember the name Glenfeild. Model 29 and Marlin stainless 1894 in 44. Maximum average pressure (MAP) was set at 40,000 psi/48,000 CUP, substantially higher than the .357 Magnum. by AJMD429 Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:17 pm, Post Joseph Von Benedikt visits with Aaron Oelger from Hodgdon about the unprecedented demand on the shooting supply industry. Seldom has any new gun/ new cartridge combination failed so quickly.Ruger's long-framed Blackhawk was first to market in two barrel lengths.